All Discussions Tagged 'grammar' - CSRNation2024-03-28T17:10:36Zhttp://csrnation.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=grammar&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA helpful trick for using affect/effecttag:csrnation.ning.com,2020-02-24:1736041:Topic:13884022020-02-24T15:52:07.836ZAshley Peacock, Proofreaderhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AshleyPeacock
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I got sick of having to constantly look up the difference between "affect" and "effect," so I created this trick to help me easily decide which to use.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Substituting endgame for effect might not be a perfect fit, but I believe it should be close enough once every other alternative is ruled out. I hope you find it useful as well!…</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I got sick of having to constantly look up the difference between "affect" and "effect," so I created this trick to help me easily decide which to use.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Substituting endgame for effect might not be a perfect fit, but I believe it should be close enough once every other alternative is ruled out. I hope you find it useful as well!</span></p>
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<p>One of my clients emailed me last week from the NCRA convention and said that Margie Wells claimed the best way to "quote" material being read aloud was this:</p>
<p>And he said, quote, (reading) Blah blah boring document words.</p>
<p>Does anyone else employ this method? As a proofer, I haven't seen it this way from any of my clients. I can see the merits -- you don't really know if they're reading it perfectly verbatim from the document -- though it can get a little clunky, in my…</p>
<p>One of my clients emailed me last week from the NCRA convention and said that Margie Wells claimed the best way to "quote" material being read aloud was this:</p>
<p>And he said, quote, (reading) Blah blah boring document words.</p>
<p>Does anyone else employ this method? As a proofer, I haven't seen it this way from any of my clients. I can see the merits -- you don't really know if they're reading it perfectly verbatim from the document -- though it can get a little clunky, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p> A new English grammar blogtag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-07-02:1736041:Topic:12348802012-07-02T22:59:52.467ZCindy Clarkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/CindyAClark
<p>Have any of you signed up for Margie Wakeman Wells' new web site? She has an English grammar blog going on over there, and she is also talking about possibly doing some webinars. </p>
<p>It's at <a href="http://www.margieholdscourt.com/">www.margieholdscourt.com</a>.</p>
<p>Have any of you signed up for Margie Wakeman Wells' new web site? She has an English grammar blog going on over there, and she is also talking about possibly doing some webinars. </p>
<p>It's at <a href="http://www.margieholdscourt.com/">www.margieholdscourt.com</a>.</p> Grammar practice tests...tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-05-30:1736041:Topic:10277132009-05-30T05:56:20.633ZMike Rowellhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MikeRowell
Just wanted to share a cool study resource with anybody getting ready for the upcoming written exams. This site helped me a bit with the written RPR a few months ago:<br />
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<a href="http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/quiz_list.htm">http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/quiz_list.htm</a><br />
Covers just about every part of grammar, punctuation, sound-alikes and easily confused words, as well as general vocabulary with 174 interactive quizzes.<br />
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Hope somebody out there finds it useful :O<br />
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-Mike
Just wanted to share a cool study resource with anybody getting ready for the upcoming written exams. This site helped me a bit with the written RPR a few months ago:<br />
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<a href="http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/quiz_list.htm">http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/quiz_list.htm</a><br />
Covers just about every part of grammar, punctuation, sound-alikes and easily confused words, as well as general vocabulary with 174 interactive quizzes.<br />
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Hope somebody out there finds it useful :O<br />
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-Mike ATTN AGENCY OWNERS: How important is punctuation?tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-10-09:1736041:Topic:3890532008-10-09T14:02:26.763ZMarla Sharphttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MarlaSharp
I'm very curious how important proper punctuation is to agency owners. I'm sure it's important to most agencies that the transcripts they send out look as good as they can, including accurancy and proper punctuation. But we all know there are varying and conflicting punctuationrules out there. Do you hope that your reporters can back up their punctuation with a rule? Or does it not matter?<br />
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We are faced with ever-changing rules, conflicting rules in different books, scopists and proofreaders…
I'm very curious how important proper punctuation is to agency owners. I'm sure it's important to most agencies that the transcripts they send out look as good as they can, including accurancy and proper punctuation. But we all know there are varying and conflicting punctuationrules out there. Do you hope that your reporters can back up their punctuation with a rule? Or does it not matter?<br />
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We are faced with ever-changing rules, conflicting rules in different books, scopists and proofreaders who don't always know the rules, teaching our scopists and proofreaders to follow the rules or our "style" of punctuation.<br />
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We are representing you when we send our transcripts out. Does it matter to you that some basics aren't followed, like:<br />
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1. Comma before a coordinating conjunction (FANBOY) when it's between two independent clauses.<br />
2. Semicolon between them if either clause has a comma within it.<br />
3. Periods or semicolons between two ind. clauses that don't have a coord. conj.<br />
4. Commas around restrictive clauses.<br />
5. Commas around interjections (that is, for example, in other words, you know, etc.)<br />
6. Dashes (not commas) to show an interruption in thought.<br />
7. Resiting the urge to place a comma somewhere because it "feels" right.<br />
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And some other non-punctuation preferences like gluing people's names together so they don't become separated on two lines, spelling out numbers at the beginning of sentences if it's three words or less, etc.<br />
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Do you expect your reporters to know most basic punctuation rules? Or do you feel there are too many conflicting rules and styles out there to even bother worrying about it or bother your reporters with it?<br />
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Would you tend to not use a reporter again if you saw they didn't follow basic rules in their transcripts?<br />
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Do you assume most of your clients wouldn't know if the punctuation is right or not?<br />
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So how important is proper punctuation? Is it a dead art form that has completely left our profession for good? Has churning out the pages become more important than worrying about the subtle nuances the right punctuation can bring to a transcript?<br />
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Basically, am I driving myself crazy for nothing trying to follow the fules?<br />
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Thanks for any and all opinions. And, please, no harsh words in this thread. I know some people feel very strongly about punctuation and doing a good job, but let's be professional.