Coming back for inflected endings, WHY???? - CSRNation2024-03-29T08:51:08Zhttp://csrnation.ning.com/forum/topics/1736041:Topic:17865?feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell, do not lose faith in yo…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2161632008-08-15T03:01:08.927ZAndrew Snail Suttonhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AndrewSnailSutton
Well, do not lose faith in your theory. I know a recent graduate from my school who went into training with Caption Colorado.<br />
Work with your software as much as possible to better understand the shortcuts you can take and how to BEST utilize its features.<br />
Good luck.
Well, do not lose faith in your theory. I know a recent graduate from my school who went into training with Caption Colorado.<br />
Work with your software as much as possible to better understand the shortcuts you can take and how to BEST utilize its features.<br />
Good luck. I find it appropriate to decl…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2161572008-08-15T02:59:17.477ZAndrew Snail Suttonhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AndrewSnailSutton
I find it appropriate to declare my difference of opinion: "this is a phonetic language"<br />
Though based on phonemes and morphemes, I adjust my writing to address inadequacies of the keyboard. Homonyms are dealt with and concepts of abbreviations (BREVGS-s) are key. W, T, W-M, common abbreviations not restricted to machine shorthand also have a bearing in most theories. As for numbers and formatting, they are not so much phonetic as symbolic and rule-defined and rule-associated. Take for instance…
I find it appropriate to declare my difference of opinion: "this is a phonetic language"<br />
Though based on phonemes and morphemes, I adjust my writing to address inadequacies of the keyboard. Homonyms are dealt with and concepts of abbreviations (BREVGS-s) are key. W, T, W-M, common abbreviations not restricted to machine shorthand also have a bearing in most theories. As for numbers and formatting, they are not so much phonetic as symbolic and rule-defined and rule-associated. Take for instance the phrase "that is to say," which is often followed by a comma and also often preceded by a semicolon or dash. Taking this to mind, a SHORThand way to write this would be, say, THAEBZ which would include the necessary formatting.<br />
For, if this were purely(although "pure" was not a word used by you ^^) phonetic, our real-time(M-W.com)services would leave much to be desired for official records.<br />
Much of the work of writing a readable transcript -- a verbatim transcript -- is understanding how to arrange the words.<br />
This is also a writing language. By this I mean it is important to understand -- now with real-time transcription even more so -- how the transcript will develop. PD=personal dictionary in CCtag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2161102008-08-15T02:52:59.982ZBrenda Rogershttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/BrendaRogers
PD=personal dictionary in CC
PD=personal dictionary in CC -DZ for -ing when -G is other…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2161062008-08-15T02:51:30.388ZBrenda Rogershttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/BrendaRogers
-DZ for -ing when -G is otherwise occupied. So DIGDZ=digging.
-DZ for -ing when -G is otherwise occupied. So DIGDZ=digging. I find some tucked endings aw…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2160912008-08-15T02:49:14.096ZAndrew Snail Suttonhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AndrewSnailSutton
I find some tucked endings awkward...but that is just a misstroke factor which I strive to eliminate. On other instances, I would prefer to distinguish the entries(if conflicting) by having the ending separate(ONLY when conflicting)<br />
How do you write "digging"? DIG*?
I find some tucked endings awkward...but that is just a misstroke factor which I strive to eliminate. On other instances, I would prefer to distinguish the entries(if conflicting) by having the ending separate(ONLY when conflicting)<br />
How do you write "digging"? DIG*? I believe I understand what y…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-15:1736041:Comment:2160732008-08-15T02:46:26.844ZAndrew Snail Suttonhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AndrewSnailSutton
I believe I understand what you are talking about when you say PD but that signifies something else for me: Phonetic Dictionary(in Eclipse how you tell the system to process certain key combinations in ALL instances unless otherwise defined).<br />
I have heard the term database, but prefer the term translation dictionary to the list of specific stenostroke combinations for ~English translation/formatted text translation.<br />
I have always wanted to put every word in Merriam-Webster in my translation…
I believe I understand what you are talking about when you say PD but that signifies something else for me: Phonetic Dictionary(in Eclipse how you tell the system to process certain key combinations in ALL instances unless otherwise defined).<br />
I have heard the term database, but prefer the term translation dictionary to the list of specific stenostroke combinations for ~English translation/formatted text translation.<br />
I have always wanted to put every word in Merriam-Webster in my translation dictionary...<br />
I was pleased when I attended NCRA's last convention, Anaheim, CA, '08 where I met with Deanna Baker again, an experienced captioner. I had developed doubts about my organization -- I insisted on categorizing as much as possible -- and was pleased to hear this advice being offered: keep your misstrokes separate, have specific dictionary files(unique to the category of vocabulary). I have passionately explored the development of my translation organization. Often times I have ideas on how to arrange the entries and their development takes longer than expected, but I am hopeful. I realize how much time the organization has saved me -- only sometimes I neglect this value when I discover my blunders...oops didn't get that in...I thought I just made that entry, et cetera.<br />
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Anyway, what does PD mean for you? Mike,
I think it's a great i…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-08-06:1736041:Comment:1756002008-08-06T01:15:45.289ZTamihttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Tami
Mike,<br />
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I think it's a great idea to start it now. You definitely are zooming through.<br />
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I went from zero to 160 in a little over a year, and I was taught to include all those endings right from theory. Sometimes it's not possible to include them in the initial or previous stroke, but the majority of time it is.<br />
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When I hit 160, I started learning briefs in families. That also helped me build speed. I wish I would have incorporated shorter theory principles at that speed and would not have waited…
Mike,<br />
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I think it's a great idea to start it now. You definitely are zooming through.<br />
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I went from zero to 160 in a little over a year, and I was taught to include all those endings right from theory. Sometimes it's not possible to include them in the initial or previous stroke, but the majority of time it is.<br />
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When I hit 160, I started learning briefs in families. That also helped me build speed. I wish I would have incorporated shorter theory principles at that speed and would not have waited a couple decades to figure that one out.<br />
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If tucking intrigues you more than including the inflected endings, start there. I personally think StenEd is the easiest theory out there to start slicing and dicing on. Just take it slow. Sometimes you take a baby step back, but you will follow with a giant leap or two forward.<br />
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Incorporating these new concepts will build speed. Your hands need not go any faster to build speed. Of course faster hands build speed, too. It's the combination that takes a lot of writers to the high speeds -- higher than CSR requirements, that is.<br />
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I've been working with another student on StenEd who glossed over some shorter writing principles right in the StenEd theory. Go back to your theory book and make sure you picked them all up.<br />
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I think a lot of us have done that. We do not pick up all the theory principles we were exposed to. I know when I taught my son theory there came a time where he just wanted to build speed, so he did just that. From about 60 to 90 he went back and learned the shorter writing concepts he had passed by. Of course since then he's never stopped learning new theory principles, phrases, briefs, and a more efficient way to write. I don't want to ever stop learning either.<br />
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Good luck!<br />
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Happy writing short! Mike, you're just going to ha…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-07-31:1736041:Comment:1509392008-07-31T23:32:46.992ZBrenda Rogershttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/BrendaRogers
Mike, you're just going to have to add them as they come up. I built my dictionary from scratch. Every single outline, I put in myself. Dictionary growth is an ongoing process. Don't think it will ever end. Don't try to sit down and try to find every single word and spend hours to pre-add the outlines; address them as they arise.<br />
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As with anything new, tucking Rs and Gs will feel unnatural at first; but before long, you'll be bending that ring finger to catch the -G for -ing without even…
Mike, you're just going to have to add them as they come up. I built my dictionary from scratch. Every single outline, I put in myself. Dictionary growth is an ongoing process. Don't think it will ever end. Don't try to sit down and try to find every single word and spend hours to pre-add the outlines; address them as they arise.<br />
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As with anything new, tucking Rs and Gs will feel unnatural at first; but before long, you'll be bending that ring finger to catch the -G for -ing without even thinking about it. Hi, I'm really intrigued abou…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-07-31:1736041:Comment:1509092008-07-31T23:26:08.442ZMike Rowellhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MikeRowell
Hi, I'm really intrigued about the idea of tucking, but I don't know how I would incorporate this into my dictionary without having to define every single word. Can anybody break down (for CaseCatalyst) how I would add in tucked Rs, and Gs, and how I could add -s to words (like cats) without having to define each and every individual word that way? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.<br />
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Another question is whether it's even good to do this as a student that started last October. I just…
Hi, I'm really intrigued about the idea of tucking, but I don't know how I would incorporate this into my dictionary without having to define every single word. Can anybody break down (for CaseCatalyst) how I would add in tucked Rs, and Gs, and how I could add -s to words (like cats) without having to define each and every individual word that way? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.<br />
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Another question is whether it's even good to do this as a student that started last October. I just passed my last 140 test last week and am shooting for 160 now and my real-time is pretty clean when I upload the notes files after class. I don't have to spend a lot of time editing, but my theory (StenEd) has me coming back for endings in almost every case (except for words ending in D where I use DZ, and for briefs that I have defined, like DLAIR for declare, DLAIRG, DLAIRS, DLAIRD ect.) I've made it pretty far pretty fast, but I wonder if i should maybe review my theory more to get it more automatic before I start tucking since I've only been studying for 9 months. I really like the idea, but it seems like it might slow me down.<br />
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Anyways, any advice/insight/feedback would be awesome. Thanks<br />
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-Mike Ditto here!
And you go, Bren…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2008-06-08:1736041:Comment:687642008-06-08T05:35:34.880ZTamihttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Tami
Ditto here!<br />
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And you go, Brenda!!<br />
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Court reporters who strive for perfect realtime will never be finished building their dictionary and critiquing their skill.<br />
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Keep up the wondering, Brittany. I don't think you should scrap what you started with but keep looking for ways to make things easier for you.<br />
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Make some lemonade!
Ditto here!<br />
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And you go, Brenda!!<br />
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Court reporters who strive for perfect realtime will never be finished building their dictionary and critiquing their skill.<br />
<br />
Keep up the wondering, Brittany. I don't think you should scrap what you started with but keep looking for ways to make things easier for you.<br />
<br />
Make some lemonade!