If you switched from a Mira to a Diamante, please comment - CSRNation2024-03-29T07:57:21Zhttp://csrnation.ning.com/forum/topics/if-you-switched-from-a-mira-to-a-diamante-please-comment?commentId=1736041%3AComment%3A1242320&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGee, Janet, guess I'm not the…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-09-01:1736041:Comment:12427582012-09-01T13:08:27.647ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
<p>Gee, Janet, guess I'm not the only one who tried to love the Mira and got the "Use a deeper stroke to avoid stacking" suggestion. That's crazy!</p>
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<p>Gee, Janet, guess I'm not the only one who tried to love the Mira and got the "Use a deeper stroke to avoid stacking" suggestion. That's crazy!</p>
<p>M.A.</p> Alice, that's a perfect examp…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-09-01:1736041:Comment:12428492012-09-01T13:07:30.785ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
<p>Alice, that's a perfect example of what Diamante No. 2 was doing yesterday, on top of being difficult to push the keys down. Here's the thing. Both of my Diamantes worked great for me right out of the box. Each one came to me with the default factory adjustment. I put them on the lightest touch, lowest stroke depth, and holy freakin' wow. I never had to make any of the touch adjustments that people talk about. Just never did that. When this Diamante came back after the retrofit, not…</p>
<p>Alice, that's a perfect example of what Diamante No. 2 was doing yesterday, on top of being difficult to push the keys down. Here's the thing. Both of my Diamantes worked great for me right out of the box. Each one came to me with the default factory adjustment. I put them on the lightest touch, lowest stroke depth, and holy freakin' wow. I never had to make any of the touch adjustments that people talk about. Just never did that. When this Diamante came back after the retrofit, not only was the touch not right (Boing-Boing-Click), now after the second retrofit, there's still a slight boing and also that TP/TPHO phenomenon. It's caused by the retrofit. Perhaps, as a friend of mine said over on the Depoman board, purchasing a new Diamante will solve the problem. She's got a brand new Diamante that automatically was built in the style of the retrofit machine, and she also has an older Diamante that was actually retrofit. She said she can tell a huge difference between the machines. So we shall see. I'm hopefully optimistic that everything will be just fine when the machine comes back this time. I'll move this over to my worry list, and that is what happens if it's not, and whatever will I do if I send off my one Diamante that's perfection and it comes back with the awful touch. One thing at a time, I guess.</p>
<p>M.A.</p> Mine actually isn't the split…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-09-01:1736041:Comment:12427522012-09-01T03:59:08.571ZAlice Clarkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AliceClark
<p>Mine actually isn't the split stroke, so it's more mystifying. The split strokes are a true split where part of the stroke was on each line. I don't seem to have those anymore or else I defined the most frequent ones so I just don't see them. I did shorten my stroke on the Diamante on a trial I did today, and if they order it I'll write them down so I can give you some examples. But it's more like no might come out: TP/TPHO, even though I know I absolutely did not release the TP and then…</p>
<p>Mine actually isn't the split stroke, so it's more mystifying. The split strokes are a true split where part of the stroke was on each line. I don't seem to have those anymore or else I defined the most frequent ones so I just don't see them. I did shorten my stroke on the Diamante on a trial I did today, and if they order it I'll write them down so I can give you some examples. But it's more like no might come out: TP/TPHO, even though I know I absolutely did not release the TP and then come back with the whole stroke. It happens a few times each job. It just bugs me mostly for realtime because that would tran "if no," for instance, which makes it look like you're writing things that didn't get said. If it's an untran it doesn't look as bad, but often they will tran into something.</p> Alice, I sure do wish I knew…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-31:1736041:Comment:12423212012-08-31T23:01:19.407ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
<p>Alice, I sure do wish I knew the answer. It is most definitely the way the machine feels. It's way too tight. But because it's too tight, and I'm used to the feather-light touch of a "real"Diamante (you know what I mean - one that's performing to perfection, like my Diamante No. 1) I try to write as I do on Diamante No. 1, and it's like slogging through waist-deep mud. Ugh! Because of that, I get, for instance, "to" instead of 20 because the keys are so hard to push down. Sounds like…</p>
<p>Alice, I sure do wish I knew the answer. It is most definitely the way the machine feels. It's way too tight. But because it's too tight, and I'm used to the feather-light touch of a "real"Diamante (you know what I mean - one that's performing to perfection, like my Diamante No. 1) I try to write as I do on Diamante No. 1, and it's like slogging through waist-deep mud. Ugh! Because of that, I get, for instance, "to" instead of 20 because the keys are so hard to push down. Sounds like you're describing the split-stroke phenomenon experienced by some reporters (me included) on the Diamante. Now that you mentioned the Mira, writing on the Diamante No. 2 today was like writing on a Mira, and no freakin' way ... I hated that Mira writer. Sigh. So when I called Stenograph, of course the technician who was taking my order tried to suggest things, such as adjusting the stroke contact, and I explained that it's not the contact, it's the stroke feel, which still has a little bump to it. She was very nice and tried to explain that, ohmygoodness, the Diamante touch is VERY light and VERY short stroke, etc. I kind of nipped that one in the bud when I explained that I have two Diamantes and I know what perfection feels like, and this ain't it. So back it goes. They were very gracious, gave me the service number right away, and back it goes. But I can definitely promise that it's for the last time! I have all expectations that it will come back as perfect as my other one. Hopeful optimism!</p>
<p>M.A.</p> I'm sorry to hear that, M.A.…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-31:1736041:Comment:12423202012-08-31T22:56:23.425ZJanethttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/JanetMcHugh
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<p>I'm sorry to hear that, M.A. I wouldn't want a Diamante with tighter tension either. It defeats the purpose of having a Diamante. That reminds me of the Mira and Stenograph telling me to use a deeper stroke to avoid stacking. The shallow stroke was the one thing I wanted from that writer.</p>
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<p>I'm not going to touch mine now. I'm happy with it the way it is. I'll save the shallower stroke for my next Diamante.</p>
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<p>I'm sorry to hear that, M.A. I wouldn't want a Diamante with tighter tension either. It defeats the purpose of having a Diamante. That reminds me of the Mira and Stenograph telling me to use a deeper stroke to avoid stacking. The shallow stroke was the one thing I wanted from that writer.</p>
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<p>I'm not going to touch mine now. I'm happy with it the way it is. I'll save the shallower stroke for my next Diamante.</p> I'm sorry they weren't able t…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-31:1736041:Comment:12422312012-08-31T22:11:56.532ZAlice Clarkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AliceClark
<p>I'm sorry they weren't able to do something about that. Is it just a problem of the way the machine feels or is it giving you extra strokes? Still trying to figure out if my Diamante problem is hardware or software when it comes to adding an extra stroke in there when I know I never released a partial stroke and then hit a complete stroke. I felt like I had to do a trade-in with my Mira instead of a sale because I knew it wasn't working right and I had that writer in to them and they…</p>
<p>I'm sorry they weren't able to do something about that. Is it just a problem of the way the machine feels or is it giving you extra strokes? Still trying to figure out if my Diamante problem is hardware or software when it comes to adding an extra stroke in there when I know I never released a partial stroke and then hit a complete stroke. I felt like I had to do a trade-in with my Mira instead of a sale because I knew it wasn't working right and I had that writer in to them and they returned it unimproved.</p> Uh-oh. Keep us posted. I'm…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-31:1736041:Comment:12427102012-08-31T18:45:35.406ZAudrey Rickshttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Audrey
<p>Uh-oh. Keep us posted. I'm finding this thread very helpful. </p>
<p>Uh-oh. Keep us posted. I'm finding this thread very helpful. </p> Not really sure where I put t…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-31:1736041:Comment:12422272012-08-31T18:23:31.153ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
<p>Not really sure where I put this originally, but as an update on my 2nd retrofitted Diamante, it came back this week, I wrote with it today, and the machine is still not right. All I can tell is that they tightened up the tension, which they advised me to do when I had the big Boing-Boing-Click going on. I said tightening up the tension was not acceptable. I guess they decided to go ahead and do that for me. I'm not happy. Going to send it in one more time, then probably sell it. Just…</p>
<p>Not really sure where I put this originally, but as an update on my 2nd retrofitted Diamante, it came back this week, I wrote with it today, and the machine is still not right. All I can tell is that they tightened up the tension, which they advised me to do when I had the big Boing-Boing-Click going on. I said tightening up the tension was not acceptable. I guess they decided to go ahead and do that for me. I'm not happy. Going to send it in one more time, then probably sell it. Just updating you-all on that.</p>
<p>M.A.</p> Alice, that also is a very ac…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-22:1736041:Comment:12409172012-08-22T16:03:41.373ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
Alice, that also is a very accurate descriptive phrase, popcorning!<br />
MA
Alice, that also is a very accurate descriptive phrase, popcorning!<br />
MA That's something different th…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-08-22:1736041:Comment:12409742012-08-22T04:50:26.706ZAlice Clarkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/AliceClark
<p>That's something different than I'm having then because there is no indication at all while I'm writing where it is going to have one of those bounced strokes. I was calling them "popcorn" the first time I called in to a tech to try and get some improvement. My best machine as far as actually only writing what I wrote was the Baron Data TX writer. I did have some of what I call this popcorning start with the Mira. The Stentura I had stacking issues but didn't have this bounce problem…</p>
<p>That's something different than I'm having then because there is no indication at all while I'm writing where it is going to have one of those bounced strokes. I was calling them "popcorn" the first time I called in to a tech to try and get some improvement. My best machine as far as actually only writing what I wrote was the Baron Data TX writer. I did have some of what I call this popcorning start with the Mira. The Stentura I had stacking issues but didn't have this bounce problem that the Mira and now Diamante have. I can improve it with the Diamante by changing adjustments but it doesn't completely go away. It's not that I'm happy about it, but I just don't think Stenograph has a grip on what causes this, so my confidence that the writer would come back improved is low. I'm sure in four or five years I'll be purchasing another writer in hopes that they have solved these issues.</p>