Student seeks HELP! - CSRNation2024-03-29T11:24:41Zhttp://csrnation.ning.com/forum/topics/student-seeks-help?commentId=1736041%3AComment%3A1057993&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI got stuck at that speed too…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-09-17:1736041:Comment:10827092009-09-17T03:26:31.846ZPatriciahttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Patricia
I got stuck at that speed too. I had to change how I was practicing. I started practicing at 140 and 160 and that got me through my 100's this summer. Listen to higher speed dictation, then when you come back down to a control speed it sounds slower than you thought making it easier to write. That's what works for me.
I got stuck at that speed too. I had to change how I was practicing. I started practicing at 140 and 160 and that got me through my 100's this summer. Listen to higher speed dictation, then when you come back down to a control speed it sounds slower than you thought making it easier to write. That's what works for me. *rhythm...sorry :)tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-09-16:1736041:Comment:10822792009-09-16T05:25:33.445ZSharla Preciadohttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/SharlaPreciado
*rhythm...sorry :)
*rhythm...sorry :) Hey Mykael,
I don't know if y…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-09-16:1736041:Comment:10822692009-09-16T05:04:49.345ZSharla Preciadohttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/SharlaPreciado
Hey Mykael,<br />
I don't know if you've taken Mr. Shastay up on his offer, but I just thought I'd tell you that I found his articles and advice on courtreportinghelp.com to be extremely helpful when I was in school.<br />
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I found that site about a week before I started theory and incorporated the things I learned there very early on. I attribute much of my quick progress through speed classes to that site and to Mr. Shastay in particular. (Come to think of it, I should probably tell him so. I never had…
Hey Mykael,<br />
I don't know if you've taken Mr. Shastay up on his offer, but I just thought I'd tell you that I found his articles and advice on courtreportinghelp.com to be extremely helpful when I was in school.<br />
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I found that site about a week before I started theory and incorporated the things I learned there very early on. I attribute much of my quick progress through speed classes to that site and to Mr. Shastay in particular. (Come to think of it, I should probably tell him so. I never had any contact with him. I just read his stuff.)<br />
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The most helpful thing I read on the web site was that you need to write with rythm, or at least practice with rythm. There's a whole process, how to do it and more importantly, WHY to do it. I remember a quote...something about if you conquer rythm at any speed, you've conquered it at every speed. I won't try to recreate here what was said there. If you've never checked out the website, I would strongly recommend it. Again, it's courtreportinghelp.com. Hope it helps!! Hello Gary. I took over runni…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-27:1736041:Comment:10721842009-08-27T20:07:12.822ZOscar Garzonhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/OscarGarzon
Hello Gary. I took over running the Court Reporting program in September of 2005. I don't know what was happening before I took over, but I have only professional court reporters teaching all the classes. I take on new instructors if they have had at least five years working experience, I train them well before putting them in a class. The school did go through all those changes of ownership and school name change. The only instructor still here from that time is Ms. Gorman, and she teaches the…
Hello Gary. I took over running the Court Reporting program in September of 2005. I don't know what was happening before I took over, but I have only professional court reporters teaching all the classes. I take on new instructors if they have had at least five years working experience, I train them well before putting them in a class. The school did go through all those changes of ownership and school name change. The only instructor still here from that time is Ms. Gorman, and she teaches the school theory. The theory has been updated to comply with the realtime teaching. I have made some changes also to comply with the new teachings of realtime.<br />
If someone comes in knowing another theory, I test them at or near the speed the student says they're at. That allows me to place them at the appropriate speed class. If they have not completed theory at the other school, then they may have to start theory here. I do make sure that I guide the student down the most realistic path.<br />
The labs have been updated with new computers. No, students do not teach classes here, They may serve as tutors, but that's it. Dont't know what handout you are talking about. sorry. Can't answer that question. I am a court reporter of 18 years experience and have made many changes here at the school to put the school up to date with the technology and the teaching the new breed of students to make sure when they get out there, they know what they are doing and can take a deposition, and are able to produce a good transcript.<br />
Hope that answers all your questions.<br />
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Oscar Garzon Hi mykael,
my only advice is…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-27:1736041:Comment:10718292009-08-27T05:39:21.581ZKevin Roldanhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Kevin
Hi mykael,<br />
my only advice is want it. Want it bad. You will not "happen" upon passing a speed.
Hi mykael,<br />
my only advice is want it. Want it bad. You will not "happen" upon passing a speed. Wow!!! I just joined this sit…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-27:1736041:Comment:10717762009-08-27T03:11:19.810ZDebbie Michaudhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/DebbieMichaud
Wow!!! I just joined this site today and the information is amazing. I am enrolled in the Court Reporting Institute of Dallas, I am going into my first speed building class in September. I am doing my last Phoenix Theory exercises this week. At this point I am not sure if I will ever get it. I cannot even imagine getting to 60wpm let alone 225wpm. These posts have been extremely helpful.<br />
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Thanks<br />
Debbie
Wow!!! I just joined this site today and the information is amazing. I am enrolled in the Court Reporting Institute of Dallas, I am going into my first speed building class in September. I am doing my last Phoenix Theory exercises this week. At this point I am not sure if I will ever get it. I cannot even imagine getting to 60wpm let alone 225wpm. These posts have been extremely helpful.<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Debbie Hi Mykael -
I'm a current st…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-26:1736041:Comment:10712442009-08-26T13:16:56.956ZKate Allenhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/KateAllen
Hi Mykael -<br />
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I'm a current student at the 100-120 range. I've taken tests and passed at 100 and 110, and I've taken tests at those same speeds after already passing previously, and failed. For me, a lot of it is a mental block. If I get too worked up before a test, I'll blow it. I have found that taking a break can do wonders for practice. If I'm having an off night it can be counterproductive. Often it's best to walk away for a bit or even for the night. Do something that you enjoy or just…
Hi Mykael -<br />
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I'm a current student at the 100-120 range. I've taken tests and passed at 100 and 110, and I've taken tests at those same speeds after already passing previously, and failed. For me, a lot of it is a mental block. If I get too worked up before a test, I'll blow it. I have found that taking a break can do wonders for practice. If I'm having an off night it can be counterproductive. Often it's best to walk away for a bit or even for the night. Do something that you enjoy or just catch up on your favorite TV shows for the night.<br />
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I have found that practicing at a higher speed than where we are testing is very helpful. Even if you can barely write anything at that high speed, it gets you listening faster so that when you drop back to the slower speed, it really seems slower. Right now, the faster speed for me is 150, and I'll go through the dictation 3-4 times and then drop back to 110-120 and see how I'm doing. Generally I have found that I write better that way.<br />
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I currently practice 6 days a week for 2-3 hours a day. I also work full-time and take 2 other classes on top of this (it's an Associate degree program.) I try to break up the practice into an hour in the morning and then 1.5-2hours at night.<br />
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There are a lot of good tips from the other reporters on here. Thanks for posting your frustration because you are not alone. We all get frustrated with it! Good luck in breaking past your barrier, Mykael.<br />
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Kate P.S. I wouldn't strive for 98…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-26:1736041:Comment:10711902009-08-26T12:44:52.179ZMary Jo Cochranhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryJoCochran
P.S. I wouldn't strive for 98 percent accuracy. It's practically unreachable. Be content to write and read it back. When you read back, you will see what mistakes you are making - like if you don't hit the vowels - or if you write in bad strokes (such as "don't) - you will know it.<br />
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For your purposes right this minute, be content to be able to read back. Practice with the newspaper every day. It is an easy, fairly relaxed way to build speed. Do a paragraph, read it back. That will tell you…
P.S. I wouldn't strive for 98 percent accuracy. It's practically unreachable. Be content to write and read it back. When you read back, you will see what mistakes you are making - like if you don't hit the vowels - or if you write in bad strokes (such as "don't) - you will know it.<br />
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For your purposes right this minute, be content to be able to read back. Practice with the newspaper every day. It is an easy, fairly relaxed way to build speed. Do a paragraph, read it back. That will tell you automatically what strokes are bad. Diane Hickman had great advic…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-26:1736041:Comment:10711702009-08-26T12:38:35.113ZMary Jo Cochranhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryJoCochran
Diane Hickman had great advice. When I was in school, if we didn't pass a speed within two terms, we had to go back down a speed - meaning if in the fall I was supposed to pass 180 that term and I didn't, and I didn't in the winter term either, then for summer term I had to start back at 170.<br />
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If you're not moving - compare yourself to sitting on the sofa - doing nothing. You're just sitting there. In order to move off that sofa you have to do something to make change. Meaning you have to do…
Diane Hickman had great advice. When I was in school, if we didn't pass a speed within two terms, we had to go back down a speed - meaning if in the fall I was supposed to pass 180 that term and I didn't, and I didn't in the winter term either, then for summer term I had to start back at 170.<br />
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If you're not moving - compare yourself to sitting on the sofa - doing nothing. You're just sitting there. In order to move off that sofa you have to do something to make change. Meaning you have to do mental processes of thinking about moving, getting a plan together to move, start the physical process to move. And the end result is, of course, you move.<br />
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It's the same thing with building shorthand. Diane's advice was great. If that doesn't work, then quit.<br />
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But did you practice during your school break? Do you have a plan of how to go about practicing, the days and the times? When you set up those appointments with yourself (and they are appointments), do you keep them?<br />
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When you sit down for your practice appointments, what is your mindset? Do you sit down and think, "Well, I will do this, but I know it won't make any difference." Do you sit down to practice, and start with say 160, and start writing "just to be writing". Is that how you always practice "just to be writing." If you are writing "just to be writing" - then how are you EVER going to get any accuracy? You can't move from 120 to130 without accuracy. Writing garbage to "just to be writing" is fine - for about 20 minutes. Someone else had also said,<br />
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"Hear the word, write it. Hear the word, write it." That is how I was taught. I might get one word, maybe two, a strong, and then sentences.<br />
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Diane's suggestions were the best. Each time you do your practice appointment (and it is an appointment), do readbacks. Do them each time. Oscar,
A few questions for yo…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2009-08-26:1736041:Comment:10711652009-08-26T10:12:47.007ZGary Wolpowhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/GaryWolpow
Oscar,<br />
A few questions for you...<br />
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When did you join the school?<br />
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The school went through a name change, management change, and possibly an ownership change a while back. Are any of the old instructors pre-change still around?<br />
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Does your school still teach the same propriatory theory it did back in the late 1990s?<br />
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Has the theory changed, been updated, or does the school now a different theory; if so, which theory?<br />
<br />
If someone comes in knowing another theory already, are they required to…
Oscar,<br />
A few questions for you...<br />
<br />
When did you join the school?<br />
<br />
The school went through a name change, management change, and possibly an ownership change a while back. Are any of the old instructors pre-change still around?<br />
<br />
Does your school still teach the same propriatory theory it did back in the late 1990s?<br />
<br />
Has the theory changed, been updated, or does the school now a different theory; if so, which theory?<br />
<br />
If someone comes in knowing another theory already, are they required to actually take your courses starting at Theory I (or whatever your school calls it), or can they test out, or just start at a higher appropriate speed and prove their capabilities?<br />
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Has you lab been updated?<br />
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Do "advanced" speed students still teach students?<br />
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There was a handout written by Simmone floating around your school in the late 1990's. Is it still around? Available?