You should be paid for your work!!!! - CSRNation2024-03-29T02:11:47Zhttp://csrnation.ning.com/forum/topics/you-should-be-paid-for-your-work?commentId=1736041%3AComment%3A1232996&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noRead through the thread and a…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-17:1736041:Comment:12329962012-06-17T01:27:01.485ZMary Ann Payonkhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryAnnPayonkCSRRDRCCPCBC
<p>Read through the thread and agree with all. Kelli, I've been reporting for a long time - 35 years. Most of that time was in Richmond, Va., and I can tell you that the norm for the majority of that time was the reporter got paid when the atty paid, and that's for the original and all copy sales. I've been gone for ten years now, and I'm sure ... well, let's say I hope the standard has changed there. Of course, nowadays my policy is net - original + all copy sales - in 30 days. To read…</p>
<p>Read through the thread and agree with all. Kelli, I've been reporting for a long time - 35 years. Most of that time was in Richmond, Va., and I can tell you that the norm for the majority of that time was the reporter got paid when the atty paid, and that's for the original and all copy sales. I've been gone for ten years now, and I'm sure ... well, let's say I hope the standard has changed there. Of course, nowadays my policy is net - original + all copy sales - in 30 days. To read that young reporters are being taken advantage of and not paid for the original is just disturbing. Looks like agency owners are making getting paid contingent upon when they get paid for the job. Independent contractors are working for the reporting agency, not the atty client, so that makes no sense. </p>
<p>M.A.</p> Congratulations, Mary Jo! Wh…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-17:1736041:Comment:12332992012-06-17T01:25:34.457ZDean Morrishttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/molas
<p>Congratulations, Mary Jo! Whether for full- or part-time, wishing you much success! </p>
<p>Congratulations, Mary Jo! Whether for full- or part-time, wishing you much success! </p> I am setting up freelancing m…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12331982012-06-16T23:29:22.772ZMary Jo Cochranhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/MaryJoCochran
<p>I am setting up freelancing my legal assistant business. I just got my business cards. I made a brochure. I have sent out my first 40 leads. I have right on my brochure "Payment expected at end of job." (Meaning I want a check before I walk out the door). </p>
<p>I am setting up freelancing my legal assistant business. I just got my business cards. I made a brochure. I have sent out my first 40 leads. I have right on my brochure "Payment expected at end of job." (Meaning I want a check before I walk out the door). </p> Janet, send me a message who…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12331272012-06-16T21:06:38.850ZKelli Combs (admin)http://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Kellicombsadmin
<p>Janet, send me a message who that is . I'm curious. It's been a few years since I've worked with some of these agencies. Maybe things have changed.</p>
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<p>Also, we are talking about getting "Paid" and so that's why I posted them because they do pay their reporters as far as I know.</p>
<p>Janet, send me a message who that is . I'm curious. It's been a few years since I've worked with some of these agencies. Maybe things have changed.</p>
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<p>Also, we are talking about getting "Paid" and so that's why I posted them because they do pay their reporters as far as I know.</p> Signed transcript orders or t…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12331242012-06-16T20:56:36.118ZDean Morrishttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/molas
<p>Signed transcript orders or transcript orders stated on the record mean the reporter must be paid at the time the 0 + 1 is paid, not to wait for copies to be paid.</p>
<p>Exactly right! </p>
<p>Again, the onus is on the agency, whether or not they want to "extend credit" to their law-firm clients, not on the reporter, when they have obtained signed transcript order forms or transcript order is stated on the record.</p>
<p>To add to Judy's list: </p>
<p>4) It's been an "accepted" business…</p>
<p>Signed transcript orders or transcript orders stated on the record mean the reporter must be paid at the time the 0 + 1 is paid, not to wait for copies to be paid.</p>
<p>Exactly right! </p>
<p>Again, the onus is on the agency, whether or not they want to "extend credit" to their law-firm clients, not on the reporter, when they have obtained signed transcript order forms or transcript order is stated on the record.</p>
<p>To add to Judy's list: </p>
<p>4) It's been an "accepted" business practice in the reporter's geographic location. </p>
<p>I know of one firm on Kelli's list that pays on 0+1, but makes reporter wait to be paid on copies. Absurd, when reporter has signed/stated-on-the-record orders.</p>
<p>5) Reporter has been out of freelance arena for a while and "has to start (again) somewhere."</p>
<p>But, truthfully, haven't those "bad business practices" been going on for a very long time?</p>
<p>And reporters have "accepted" them?</p>
<p>And they become perpetuated?</p>
<p>Awareness needs to start in the c. r. schools, where teachers instill business-practices knowledge in their students. When I went to c. r. school, there was no course on business practices. Just: You work for an agency and they pay you, generally when agency was paid.</p>
<p>We were young, and, yes, that bus. practice is absolutely unbelievable.</p> Ditto, Diana. One of the co…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12331202012-06-16T20:53:31.389ZJanethttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/JanetMcHugh
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<p>Ditto, Diana. One of the companies recently cut their rates so far below market rates that most of the reporters in my area have stopped doing business with them.</p>
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<p>Ditto, Diana. One of the companies recently cut their rates so far below market rates that most of the reporters in my area have stopped doing business with them.</p> "Why some reporters put thems…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12331912012-06-16T20:22:54.089ZJudyhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/JudyRunes
<p>"Why some reporters put themselves in these situations, I just find hard to understand."</p>
<p>The easy answer to that is</p>
<p>1) they have no reputation and have to start somewhere</p>
<p>2) they've done something to their reputation and that's the only gigs they can get</p>
<p>3) they're too dang shy to ask upfront</p>
<p>"Why some reporters put themselves in these situations, I just find hard to understand."</p>
<p>The easy answer to that is</p>
<p>1) they have no reputation and have to start somewhere</p>
<p>2) they've done something to their reputation and that's the only gigs they can get</p>
<p>3) they're too dang shy to ask upfront</p> You go, Quyen!! tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12329882012-06-16T20:09:51.960ZKelli Combs (admin)http://csrnation.ning.com/profile/Kellicombsadmin
<p>You go, Quyen!! </p>
<p>You go, Quyen!! </p> I have never and will never w…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12329852012-06-16T19:41:11.902ZQuyenhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/QuyenNDo
<p>I have never and will never work for any firm that does not pay the O & 1 up-frront. I have taken ONE job where the firm pays copies when they get paid -- never again. The way I see it is, if I've got the copy orders on record/order form and if the firm has actually sent out the transcript, then I SHOULD BE PAID. If the firm sends out the transcript without obtaining payment first, then collections becomes the firm's obligation and problem, not ours -- we should be paid on the copies…</p>
<p>I have never and will never work for any firm that does not pay the O & 1 up-frront. I have taken ONE job where the firm pays copies when they get paid -- never again. The way I see it is, if I've got the copy orders on record/order form and if the firm has actually sent out the transcript, then I SHOULD BE PAID. If the firm sends out the transcript without obtaining payment first, then collections becomes the firm's obligation and problem, not ours -- we should be paid on the copies that were sent out. Collections is not the reporter's job.</p>
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<p>Reporters ARE empowered. We have the easiest and fastest way of communication nowadays -- the Internet. We are able to spread the word and share our experiences. Why some reporters put themselves in these situations, I just find hard to understand. If ALL reporters refuse to accept these terms, SOMEONE/SOMETHING has got to give -- and it won't be the reporters. TOGETHER we ARE strong.</p> Interesting list. Seven of t…tag:csrnation.ning.com,2012-06-16:1736041:Comment:12332822012-06-16T19:06:49.308ZDiana Sasseenhttp://csrnation.ning.com/profile/DianaSasseen
<p>Interesting list. Seven of those are on my "NEVER WORK FOR" list. Not due to pay, but due to the way they do business.</p>
<p>Interesting list. Seven of those are on my "NEVER WORK FOR" list. Not due to pay, but due to the way they do business.</p>