Stacking Resolution Suggestions Please

[Tricia McLaughlin]

Hi, all,

I have been trying for months (or longer) to resolve two stacking issues that keep coming up over and over again, so I thought I'd ask the many experts on the Nation for help.

My brief for "that have" is tha-f. It endlessly comes out as "of that". The other one is "that had". My brief is tha-d. If I write "you mentioned that" in steno, it two-thirds of the time comes out to be "you mention that had".

Any suggestions on different strokes?

Thanks a bunch!

Tricia

[Julie Samford]

Well, I'm trying to come up with a solution for the asterisk stacking problem. I sent an email to someone way smarter than me, and if there's a macro that can do it, he'll know exactly what to do.

One solution is to add the asterisk under the Dragged Keys button on the Translate page. What that will do is take the asterisk out of the corrected stroke instead of giving you an untranslate, so you'll have one error instead of two.

If you're using Translation Magic, that could also take care of the problem for you. It's smart enough to figure out stacked strokes. Just put a check next to the Translation Magic box under the Translate tab, and if you haven't used it before, you could start out with about 15 as your setting. Any higher and you may get some weird translations, but that's a good conservative setting to start out with. I think that may just do the trick for your asterisk issue. Be sure that you have asterisk defined as {DELETE} in your dictionary. You can just do Control-D and put it in quicker than you can search for it.

Kyung, I was going to suggest you could create a conflict for \can you\you can, but there are many times when those two entries could be interchangeable. The conflict resolution works great when only one will make sense, but in this case it wouldn't always know if the speaker is posing a question or making a statement. But I'd put it in and see if it helps even 75 percent of the time.

Have a great weekend, everybody!

[Kyung]

I've been having stacking problems since I got my machined shimmed. My can you and you can are a big problem. It is usually reversed now.

[Tami]

Oh, and I know you didn't ask me. Sorry!

Julie, would you get right on that, please?? :)

[Tami]

Clay, try raising the number on the asterisk.

You know I have the exact same issue with mine. I keep adding all the * stack strokes in.

Yes, Julie, I don't have dragging problems. I hit what I mean and mean what I hit. :)

It's these darn writers -- at least 99.9 percent of the time.

Back to work!

[Clay Frazier]

I know it's the Mira's problem because it never happened before this machine, but my machine's problem is my problem.

Is there any way to get around this with Eclipse or ajusting my writer? Here is the problem:

I misstroke, then hit the * then hit my correct stroke, but I stack the * with the correction stroke... a lot.

It's really bad because it doubles my errors by not taking away the first and by sabotaging the correction stroke.

HELP!!

[Julie Samford]

Oh, Tami, you're gonna love it! You can create conflicts for anything that's not coming up just right. A big deal for me personally was to put a check under Fix Misstrokes under the Translate tab. I drag my final L, and that cut out an unbelievable amount of editing time. If you drag anything, definitely put it in there. Just press the Dragged Keys button. Have a great weekend!

[Tami]

Julie, I just received my Eclipse today. Can't wait for all that good stuff to start working!!

I don't have any conflicts right now, so I understand I should probably create some for the stacking issues. Is that right??

Oh, and, Tricia, I know you probably already thought about this, but what about *F for your final -v?

What writer are you on??

[Carol Stone]

Being a scopist, I don't have a stacking problem -- except when I see it! But there's a company in Seattle, WA, that supports reporter hardware/software -- OTEC, Allan Dyer, 206-284-7492 -- who says sometimes stacking can be a function of your machine needing adjustment(s). He might have some ideas for you. Good luck. Carol Stone

[Julie Samford]

Hi Tricia -
I just peeked at your page to see what software you're on. I'm sorry I'm not familiar with AristoCAT, but maybe there's a similar fix to the way we do it in Eclipse.

Debbie, since you're on Eclipse, you can just define THA-D like this: \that had\{^ed}that and after you choose it once or twice, you'll never see that problem again. For THA-F, define it like this: \that have\of that and that will be the last of that! Another good one is TO-D, if that's your TODAY or TO DO, but it always comes up "It was mention today me," then just define TO-D as \today\{^ed}to for a permanent wonderful fix to that one. Good luck!

[Tricia McLaughlin]

Thanks, Debbie. Glad to see I'm not alone. With what finger are you hitting the asterisk on "that have"? That's a stretch.

Tricia