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I've been asked (axed) by other court reporters, what do you write/translate when the accent is different? Well, advertisement and centimeter pronounced differently but spelled the same, it's just the accent. Case in point:
(IMO, if you ask for a g, you know it ends in a g)
Q - What do you write ?
Then there are those that make us cry...
Really? A reporter "axed" you what you would write? Would a reporter consider writing, "He axed me to go with him"? Um, I don't think so.
I wasn't going to make any comments. My logic tells me this "Discussion" is really a quip and she isn't expecting responses. I couldn't imagine making a transcript reflecting how a person actually sounds because it would show my ignorance and it would be insulting to the speaker. Many people (adults) tell me I talk funny or I have a heavy accent. Many other people tell me I don't. I can't make an N sound (nurse - lurse, no - low). Our speech patterns come from what our brain maps. (Orientals learn to speak from orientals. Deaf people can't hear, so they can't learn speech patterns). If I had to give a depo and the court reporter made a transcript of exactly how some of my words come out - I would be writing one nasty-ass letter to the reporting firm and copy it to the attorneys.
I hesitated to comment too. But the more I thought about it, the more I thought it wasn't a quip, b/c she said she had actually been asked by other reporters. I don't know why someone would post something if she didn't really want a response. If not, it's just called a "thought" or a remark in a journal to which no one would respond. But, yeah, I agree with what you said, Mary Jo, about pretty much going ballistic if someone wrote our "accents." I'm from Texas, and don't even hear my accent. Supposedly I have one. :)
My rules for transcription is if I know what the word is and it's in the dictionary, then that is what is transcribed. I do public defender depos, and I hear a lot of words come out of people's mouths that sound different from the actual pronounciation. I am making a transcript for attorneys and the court. The purpose of my transcript is to get testimony for use in litigation - not to see how a deponent speaks.
I have a question, Mary Jo, if you had a witness say, "It was mines" using the word "mines" for "mine" what would you do?
It was mines. And I get A LOT of that. I do not clean up their poor grammar. But if their accent makes words sound funny, I transcribe the correct spelling. That's a good point. Because the way a person speaks reflects the person's quality. And that is something attorneys are also evaluating just as much as the person's education, training and actual testimony.
I wouldn't write "axed" for asked because, well, I might be accused of being bigoted or making fun of someone. On the other hand, where I live there are a lot of Asians and they always get their plurals wrong. And I do write the plurals as they say them, things like, "I go to many meeting," etc. Also I would write "mines" if that's what they said. But if someone mispronounces a real word, I put the correct word down.
I wasn't going to respond either, but I have had deponents with absolutely no accent say axed for asked, so I don't believe that one is an accent issue. It may be a mispronunciation issue, but not an accent issue. And I've read lots of posts about reporters [sic]ing mispronounced words, so why not this one?
Thank you all for your replies.
I don't personally correct noun and verb when the incorrect one is used or an s or d is added to the end of a word, or write sic, and I personally write asked, even if I hear axed, because it's a mispronunciation of the word, IMO, of many individuals; and then the doctor pronounces centimeter "sontimeter" and because we write phonetic, we have to global the stroke to translate correctly.
I just thought I'd post this because I've heard both reporters writing exactly and inserting sic
The Wheel of Fortune link above just seemed ridiculous (asking for a g but not pronouncing it, i.e., swimmin') just had me thinking, really? I'm from TX too and I think the accent of dropping the g is very prevalent.
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