Hi, all,

I have been trying for months (or longer) to resolve two stacking issues that keep coming up over and over again, so I thought I'd ask the many experts on the Nation for help.

My brief for "that have" is tha-f. It endlessly comes out as "of that". The other one is "that had". My brief is tha-d. If I write "you mentioned that" in steno, it two-thirds of the time comes out to be "you mention that had".

Any suggestions on different strokes?

Thanks a bunch!


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Comment by Stacy Tegner on September 20, 2009 at 17:53
Thanks Julie ~ I'm going to try it this week!!
Comment by Julie Samford on September 20, 2009 at 17:21
Hi Stacy! If you click on the Dragged Keys button, then press backspace, that will delete all the letters that are marked. Then just press the final L. On the Dropped Keys, you only want to select letters that sometimes don't register when you press them. For me, it's the initial pinkie S that I don't always press hard enough. So if I write, "I saw a NAKE," Eclipse will put in the S for me just like I wrote it correctly. You're just basically telling Eclipse, hey, if I make a mistake, it's usually going to be ____ so try that first. I hope it makes as big a difference for you as it did me!
Comment by Stacy Tegner on September 19, 2009 at 15:06
Julie, I've never had the fix misstrokes checked. i'm now just constantly adjusting the LS (my somewhat newer writer) and its sensitivity ~ I do tend to drag the - L on it where I never did before. If I click the fix misstroke button, what do you have defined for the keys ~ all of them? That's what shows up on mine, minus the *. And for the dropped key tab, there's only -LG in there.
Comment by Tami on September 19, 2009 at 14:48
Why can't they make a machine that doesn't stack -- except for reporter error??

The Smartwriter was a stackless writer, AND I know the Stenoram II was stackless, and now it's sounding like the Ultra didn't stack.

On the rare occasion I did stack on my Smartwriter, I had to own it. It was my own fault, and that's okay. It's just trying to write to writers that stack on their own that is so DANG FRUSTRATING!!!

Sorry. I'm breathing again.

I know some of my friends are going to hate me for this, but I don't think there's an equivalent to those older writers I mentioned re: stacking. Not even the latest one out with the pretty screen. :)

And the adjustments on those old writers, I probably had to get out my wrench once a year. This daily all of a sudden the T- doesn't come up is maddening -- because it's every letter on my machine.

Here I'm all excited about software fixing my writer. Why can't my writer just do what it's supposed to do.

Guess they were only shallow breaths. :)
Comment by Tricia McLaughlin on September 19, 2009 at 14:33
I have to jump in and say THANKS. It's nice to know I'm not the only one with stacking issues. When I used my Xscribe Ultra, I used to hear about stacking on the boards and didn't know what the hell it was. Then I went to the "big company". Boy, did I learn quickly. Now, I know why I have stayed away from them for thirty years.

"Do I" and "I do" reverse on me also. Tami just posted a good stroke "DOI" for do I. Thanks for that, Tami. Gotta get that trained in my fingers.

Have a great weekend all!

Comment by Tami on September 19, 2009 at 14:15
Now you get it, Janet: :)

would you WOU or WAOU
you would ULD

Confession: I don't use the right side "do" yet. :(

But there is one, and it was posted a couple pages back in MSFC. It is on my list to learn soon, so while I don't remember that as a problem stack, it probably is for me.

I do use "do I," DOI

Thank you, Julie, for the asterisk advice. I do have that issue a whole lot -- since using the Mira.

I'm just now sitting down to read and load my Eclipse software. Woot!!
Comment by Tami on September 19, 2009 at 14:08

Don't tell me you two stroke "can you" and "you can."

Easy fix on that stacking issue:

you can UK
can you KU

Pretty soon we'll have you writing "can you tell" in one stroke. :)

Now I need to catch up on what everybody posted on this page. I had to get that off my chest. HA!
Comment by Julie Samford on September 19, 2009 at 14:02
PS - Janet, don't be afraid of the Fix Misstrokes button ... it only comes into play if you have an untranslate. It'll never just take an L out of a perfectly good steno stroke!
Comment by Julie Samford on September 19, 2009 at 13:55
I understand how it seems counterintuitive to put conflicts in, but if you just trust Eclipse to pick the right one after you've taught the artificial intelligence a couple of lessons, I think your realtime ego will be just fine 'cause it'll come out perfectly! Let us know how it comes out. :)
Comment by Janet on September 19, 2009 at 13:43
With me, my "I do" and "do I" flip and "would you" and "you would."

I can't bring myself to hit the Fix Misstrokes, either. And my "realtime" pride kept me from having any conflicts in my dictionary. After reading these posts, I realized that spending less time editing means more to me than not having any conflicts in my dictionary. I now put the "I do" and "do I" and "would you" and "you would" as conflicts. I hope that solves it, once and for all.

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