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Let's all get together and learn to write shorter, cleaner, and faster the Mark Kislingbury way. "Write Short - Write Fast!"

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Comment by Mark Kislingbury on May 8, 2009 at 8:50
Also, as I read Tami's posts, I see she's a faithful disciple of mine!! LOL She's learned very well! She's absolutely right about "no stroke too hard" - the key is, since a hard stroke is often a stroke for what USED TO BE 3 words, you now have more TIME to write the difficult stroke.
Comment by Mark Kislingbury on May 8, 2009 at 8:48
Also, let me say that Clay has taken my theory and run with it - he's invented new, very clever things, and changed some things that he preferred to write other ways. This is a good thing - so I really respect Clay's opinions on briefs.

One if his cool ideas is *RBG for ~your. I'm working on learning that. The idea is, the -RBG is a "mirror" of the Y- in the left hand. Hence, Y for "your." The asterisk avoids conflicts.
Comment by Mark Kislingbury on May 8, 2009 at 8:45
Gary,

I like your idea for -FBT. No, I do not use it for anything, but I'm going to think of SOMETHING to use it for!!! I need a ~when on the right side, so maybe that. Not sure.

About your other questions, I write:

OPBT onto
O*PBT on it

I see now that Clay and Christine and Tami have answered for me - CORRECTLY (KREL) I might add - so I need not go further.

the -FBT is actually a MISSTROKE of was not; "was not" correctly stroked, for me is -FPBT. So I think -FBT can be used as the right stroke for something else.

Let me know if I missed something! :)
Comment by Clay Frazier on May 8, 2009 at 8:33
"If I made SKPEUF to be and of
and SKP*EUF to be and if
and SKP*EUFB to be and have
and SKPEUFB to and have been
would it work? "
Gary,
Why are you putting EUs in these? you are going to ruin adding "I" to it.
and have SKP*F or it looks like SKP*FB in your case, but then you're going to ruin "and have been" unless you think of another way to do that..
anyways back on topic.
and have SKP*F
and I have SKPEU*F
maybe you just meant to say that. Otherwise, there's no reason to put the EUs in "and have," etc.

on the OT
on it OIT
onto ONT
on to O*NT
was not FNT

again, why make "and of" "SKPEUF?"
SKP-F
Comment by Tami on May 7, 2009 at 11:35
I know you asked Mark -- hopefully he has time to answer -- but my feeling is there is no stroke too difficult -- if you have the right amount of fingers, that is.

My hands have slowed down so much by writing short that I have more time to get them into tricky strokes, and I've found the more I write things that I once thought were tricky, they become just like a regular 'ol stroke for me.
Comment by Christine Kirley on May 7, 2009 at 10:39
Gary,
I know you were addressing Mark regarding these outlines, but I thought I'd post these in the meantime. I know Mark writes the the following for these outlines:

SKPEUF = and if
SKP*EUF = and I have
SKP*EUFB = and I have been
OPBT = onto
O*PBT = on it
T*OT = tot
FBT = was not

Hope this helps :)
Comment by Gary Wolpow on May 6, 2009 at 21:28
Mark,

Does Magnum Theory use -FBT for anything?

Would -FBT be considered to difficult a stroke for use in words or phrases, especially at high speeds?
Comment by Gary Wolpow on May 6, 2009 at 21:13
If tot is to the, then how is the word tot written?

If on the is ot, is on it o*t?

Mark,

Thanks for the list, and for taking the time to put it together. I second Christine's thoughts.

And I wholeheartedly agree with you on the use of small-word phrases.

A few quick questions:

Is ont used for anything? If not, could it be used for on the (and of course, o*nt would be on it)?

and if SKPEUF
If I made SKPEUF to be and of
and SKP*EUF to be and if
and SKP*EUFB to be and have
and SKPEUFB to and have been
would it work?
Comment by Christine Kirley on May 6, 2009 at 11:39
Thanks for the list, Mark. And thanks for taking the time to put the list together. We appreciate it very much :)
Comment by Tim Floury on May 6, 2009 at 10:40
Wow, Mark. That list is great! Many of them I know and use every day; others I never even thought of. I'm going to pick a few at a time and work on them.

Thanks again.
 

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