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Magnum Steno Fan Club

Let's all get together and learn to write shorter, cleaner, and faster the Mark Kislingbury way. "Write Short - Write Fast!"

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final OR ending 7 Replies

Started by Wynne A. Pauly. Last reply by Wynne A. Pauly Feb 16, 2013.

need help for these and how Mark does them 8 Replies

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final -LY ending 4 Replies

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DWI and DUI 2 Replies

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What does Mark recommend on conflicts??? 7 Replies

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Online school for Magnum Theory 4 Replies

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Need practice on briefs or phrases you are trying to learn? Try digital flash cards! 15 Replies

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Why doesn't this work for me (insert wailing and gnashing of teeth)? 11 Replies

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I love TKWARD 16 Replies

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Thought I'd toss these into the mix

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In my days of court reporting school ..... 1 Reply

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How to get from 76% accuracy to 98% in 5 weeks - at 160wpm! 5 Replies

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I Probably Should Not Admit This... 18 Replies

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Numbers 17 Replies

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This program is fantastic! 4 Replies

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Mark's briefing method... 5 Replies

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How does Magnum Steno Club work? 5 Replies

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Small-Word Phrases 33 Replies

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dictionary building.. 8 Replies

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Staying on top of speaker vs trailing behind speaker 12 Replies

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Comment by LeAnne Law on January 16, 2012 at 19:30

Why change it?  You can use X for more than one thing as long as there isn't a conflict.  I use it for accident phrases and ~ction. 

Comment by Wynne A. Pauly on January 16, 2012 at 17:14

I have Mark's first book but not the Magnum one.  And, yes, it's on my list of must purchase, right after StenoCast Red and a Passport writer.

Comment by Rhoda Collins on January 16, 2012 at 16:52

Wynne, have you looked into getting Mark's book?  Is WELL worth the cost and is a tax writeoff anyway!

Comment by Wynne A. Pauly on January 16, 2012 at 16:51

Thanks, Keith.  I really like those. 

Comment by Keith Rowan II on January 16, 2012 at 16:39

I use DRE for degree and GRE for agree, short E for both.  I do have a lot of misstrokes defined for agree because it's such a common word and I am bad with G-, especially GR-.  Most of my issues are on my left hand.

Comment by Wynne A. Pauly on January 16, 2012 at 15:48

Thanks, Rhoda and Keith.  This is great info.

What about agree and degree?

Comment by Keith Rowan II on January 16, 2012 at 11:35

Excellent.  :)

Comment by Rhoda Collins on January 16, 2012 at 11:21

I have followed Mark and his principles for years....I know all those rules, lol.  I 'tried' to change, but it didn't work.  He does say to not spend time on changing things that you can't....can't remember where he posted/said that.  But to work on things to improve ourselves that we can 'get'.  I 'do' hit full strokes...I follow a TON of his writing ways and have been working w/his Magnum Steno book for a few years.  LOVE his ideas!

Comment by Keith Rowan II on January 16, 2012 at 11:03

One of Mark's best pieces of advice is to always hit the full stroke, always hit as many letters as you can on each stroke, then come back for any remaining letters.  Some people have a tendency to break up words into more syllables than needed, like:

JUX/TA/POEZ instead of J*UX/POEZ

KA/ROT/ID instead of KROT/ID

SU/FAOIS instead of SFAOIS

SU/BORD/EU/NAT  instead of SBORNT or SBORD/NAT

Learn as many briefing principles as you can and how to say words quickly and squish syllables, leave out unaccented syllables, etc.  Learn which letters you can combine. 

I checked my dictionary, and I don't have -ction as a suffix.  Looking through,  I still don't see any words you could use it on.  A lot of them are one stroke, and the others would all have consonants on the second stroke, like

advection  AD/VEX 

benefaction  BEN/FA*X

concoction  KON/KOX 

Sometimes, I have things that are in my dictionary that I don't even use that prevent me from using a really good brief.  So I get rid of them and use the other brief.  :)

Comment by Rhoda Collins on January 16, 2012 at 10:44

Not sure 'I" have an actual example.  I know I use it on different occasions by itself.  I know I created a conflict to 'test' Mark's idea, but it just was not clicking in my brain and I was continuing to do the suffix with it.  I try them, and if they don't work, I ditch them, lol.  I don't want to spend years to finally have something 'click'....or even NOT click.  I give it a few weeks of drilling and trying it out on the job.

 

 

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