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Comment by Jennie Ann on June 18, 2009 at 2:28

What is the difference between "guarantee" and guaranty"?

These words kept coming up in a transcript I did recently. I spent a great deal of time on Google trying to learn more about the noun and the verb.

It seems as if "guarantee(s)" is widely accepted for the noun today, though I think the noun "guaranty" plural should be "guaranties."

I came across this link which really opened my eyes to these words: Guarantee or Guaranty

I thought you all may enjoy reading this. I found it interesting.

Comment by Jennie Ann on June 14, 2009 at 10:01

In looking for another comma conundrum in my "Court Reporting: Grammar and Punctuation" book by Diane Castilaw, 2d Edition, it states on page 206, Article 476, as follows:

When part of a name, abbreviate Jr., Sr., and designations such as III.

Mr. Carl J. Davis, Sr., has been appointed to the board.
Bennett Rawlings III has written about a dozen books.

Note: Do not use Jr. or Sr. in abbreviated form unless the complete name is used.

George Junior does not wish to follow in the footsteps of George Senior by working in the lumber industry.

Comment by Rosalie DeLeonardis on June 13, 2009 at 7:56

Jeremy, my question was in response to Brenda and I talking about Jr, and I was curious if she abbreviated Dr. also. because of her examples she gave below. It started off that I left a comment that I would not abbre. Frank Junior in a transcript, and Brenda responded with her examples. Yes, I know it's not abbrev, but thank you for responding just in case I didn't.

Comment by Jeremy Frank on June 13, 2009 at 7:27

In response to Rosalie's question, one should write out Doctor, would you turn to page- because its referring to a specific individual, otherwise it would be, the doctor. Dr. again should be reserved for a particular known individual, and Drs. for a known group.
Jeremy Frank

Comment by Jennie Ann on June 13, 2009 at 2:54

This discourse really got me to thinking about commas. I just found this website called "Essay Rater," and you can submit any block of text. The website will rate it for puncutation, grammar, word choice, et cetera.

Here is the link: Essay Rater

I submitted this example: "It was Frank Junior that went to the store."

They rated it with no mistakes.

That said, if you were to do a Google search for comma usage with "Sr." and "Jr." after a name in the abbreviated form, there seems to be no right or wrong. Half say NO COMMA, and the other half say COMMA. LOL

I do believe that comma usage is a personal style preference. As long as you are consistent throughout the document, that is the most important.

Comment by Brenda Rogers on June 12, 2009 at 20:02

Oh, yes, of course! A title without a name following. Write it out and cap it.

I have seen others just really adamant and strong in their statements of "I *always* write just what they say, no abbreviations," etc. Since there are very few times in life that "always" and "never" apply universally, the devil in me feels the need to point out the exceptions. ;)

Comment by Rosalie DeLeonardis on June 12, 2009 at 17:46

You are absolutely right, Brenda, especially on your examples below. But I do have one question. When the attorney says, "Doctor, would you turn to page so and so," you do write out "doctor." Right? You don't put, "Dr., would you turn to....."

Comment by Brenda Rogers on June 12, 2009 at 17:24

Where "write out everything they say" falls down is:
Mr.
Dr.
Mrs.
$
and on and on.

There are plenty of things that we abbreviate as a matter of course, plenty of things we put in because we know that's what they meant. When someone says, "We met at 4:15," we know they mean time and we put in the cipher.

I understand what you're saying, Rosalie, but we do use judgment and common sense and just can't hide behind "writing out everything they say" when, in reality, we are doing that, even with the abbreviations and symbols.

Comment by Rosalie DeLeonardis on June 12, 2009 at 16:22

Brenda, I understand "Jr." is the accepted abbreviation for junior, but I still do things the way I was taught from the nineties, you write out everything they say. Having said that, I am changing certain things, for example, when the attorney quotes documents and says "quotes," "period," "end quotes," I'm no longer putting the actual words in.

Comment by Brenda Rogers on June 12, 2009 at 16:10

"Jr." is the accepted abbreviation for junior. I wouldn't write it out, and I wouldn't use a comma in something so brief. In a full name the comma is optional -- unless the person actually has a preference. Then it's only proper, and polite, to go along with his preference if known.

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